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	<title>Comments on: CoComment Firefox Extension: Trying It Out</title>
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		<title>By: RinzeWind</title>
		<link>http://www.contentious.com/2006/04/30/cocomment-firefox-extension-trying-it-out/#comment-89300</link>
		<dc:creator>RinzeWind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 21:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Chris: I finally managed to register (I had to contact their helpdesk, though. Something wasn't working). However, after trying it for a few hours I didn't find it really useful. I fooled around a bit and fount &lt;a href="http://co.mments.com"&gt;co.mments&lt;/a&gt; that serves much better for my purposes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chris: I finally managed to register (I had to contact their helpdesk, though. Something wasn&#8217;t working). However, after trying it for a few hours I didn&#8217;t find it really useful. I fooled around a bit and fount <a href="http://co.mments.com">co.mments</a> that serves much better for my purposes.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.contentious.com/2006/04/30/cocomment-firefox-extension-trying-it-out/#comment-70348</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 May 2006 16:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Amy Gahran: The problem you spotted with the trackAllComments feature should now be fixed, so you can give that another shot, if you like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Amy Gahran: The problem you spotted with the trackAllComments feature should now be fixed, so you can give that another shot, if you like.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.contentious.com/2006/04/30/cocomment-firefox-extension-trying-it-out/#comment-70261</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 May 2006 21:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@RinzeWind: I just tested it. It's working fine for me. Where exactly did you get stuck? You were not able to submit the verification form? Did you get an error or what happend?

@Easton: All interesting ideas. Specially the idea of whitelisting and blacklisting. Maybe the extension could simply remember the settings a user makes for a given domain or URL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@RinzeWind: I just tested it. It&#8217;s working fine for me. Where exactly did you get stuck? You were not able to submit the verification form? Did you get an error or what happend?</p>
<p>@Easton: All interesting ideas. Specially the idea of whitelisting and blacklisting. Maybe the extension could simply remember the settings a user makes for a given domain or URL.</p>
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		<title>By: Easton Ellsworth</title>
		<link>http://www.contentious.com/2006/04/30/cocomment-firefox-extension-trying-it-out/#comment-70231</link>
		<dc:creator>Easton Ellsworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 May 2006 07:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amy, I'm thrilled you're mentioning cocomment on Monday at Poynter.  I am shocked that it hasn't been noticed by more people.  Well, then again, I think if only they understood what this can really do for one's productivity ... I used to hate having to cut and paste links into my browser or fumbling through bookmarks to visit pages I had commented at.  Along came del.icio.us and I was able to at least keep a simple register of them all.  But now we've got cocomment telling us within a few minutes that another cocommenter has spoken somewhere where we have.  And soon we might see cocomment (or a tool like it) offering us intelligent suggestions such as, "Welcome Amy, and good morning - would you like to see the following 23 URLs?  I think they'd be fertile ground in which you could sow relevant comments, based on your preferences for blogs about XYZ ..."  Anyway, my mind is just spinning with the possibilities and I really think this ought to be talked about more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amy, I&#8217;m thrilled you&#8217;re mentioning cocomment on Monday at Poynter.  I am shocked that it hasn&#8217;t been noticed by more people.  Well, then again, I think if only they understood what this can really do for one&#8217;s productivity &#8230; I used to hate having to cut and paste links into my browser or fumbling through bookmarks to visit pages I had commented at.  Along came del.icio.us and I was able to at least keep a simple register of them all.  But now we&#8217;ve got cocomment telling us within a few minutes that another cocommenter has spoken somewhere where we have.  And soon we might see cocomment (or a tool like it) offering us intelligent suggestions such as, &#8220;Welcome Amy, and good morning - would you like to see the following 23 URLs?  I think they&#8217;d be fertile ground in which you could sow relevant comments, based on your preferences for blogs about XYZ &#8230;&#8221;  Anyway, my mind is just spinning with the possibilities and I really think this ought to be talked about more.</p>
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		<title>By: Easton Ellsworth</title>
		<link>http://www.contentious.com/2006/04/30/cocomment-firefox-extension-trying-it-out/#comment-70230</link>
		<dc:creator>Easton Ellsworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 May 2006 06:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great ideas, everyone.  Another suggestion I have would be to take the &lt;a href="http://www.cocomment.com/people"&gt;People page&lt;/a&gt; and branch it out so that, for example, one could see the most prolific commenters on blogs about personal finance or the most prolific commenters who self-identify as "business bloggers."  Right now, the "top cocommenters" list is very interesting (hey, I'm on it!  Wonder how long that will last), but I wish I could slice and dice it more.  Like, instead of showing the most prolific commenters ranked by number of comments, how about ranking them by the number of unique pages or sites they've commented at?  Or letting the user specify a given date range - or, even better, a given topic - to see who are the commenters that are making the most comments.

Another interesting dimension to all of this is that we can all snoop on each other - and, well, looking at it positively, learn from each other - more readily.  Sometimes I forget to turn OFF cocomment if I am commenting at a non-work-related blog, for example, and I have to go into my account and delete it.  Can you guys make it so that I could automatically disregard certain domains - y'know, tell cocomment once and then it doesn't try operating at that page anymore?  (Oh, and make that option reversible of course.)

Just some more logs for the pile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great ideas, everyone.  Another suggestion I have would be to take the <a href="http://www.cocomment.com/people">People page</a> and branch it out so that, for example, one could see the most prolific commenters on blogs about personal finance or the most prolific commenters who self-identify as &#8220;business bloggers.&#8221;  Right now, the &#8220;top cocommenters&#8221; list is very interesting (hey, I&#8217;m on it!  Wonder how long that will last), but I wish I could slice and dice it more.  Like, instead of showing the most prolific commenters ranked by number of comments, how about ranking them by the number of unique pages or sites they&#8217;ve commented at?  Or letting the user specify a given date range - or, even better, a given topic - to see who are the commenters that are making the most comments.</p>
<p>Another interesting dimension to all of this is that we can all snoop on each other - and, well, looking at it positively, learn from each other - more readily.  Sometimes I forget to turn OFF cocomment if I am commenting at a non-work-related blog, for example, and I have to go into my account and delete it.  Can you guys make it so that I could automatically disregard certain domains - y&#8217;know, tell cocomment once and then it doesn&#8217;t try operating at that page anymore?  (Oh, and make that option reversible of course.)</p>
<p>Just some more logs for the pile.</p>
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		<title>By: RinzeWind</title>
		<link>http://www.contentious.com/2006/04/30/cocomment-firefox-extension-trying-it-out/#comment-70228</link>
		<dc:creator>RinzeWind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 May 2006 06:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm... there seems to be some kind of problem with the registration process. I can't get through the account verification screen. Did this happen to anyone else?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230; there seems to be some kind of problem with the registration process. I can&#8217;t get through the account verification screen. Did this happen to anyone else?</p>
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		<title>By: David Brazeal</title>
		<link>http://www.contentious.com/2006/04/30/cocomment-firefox-extension-trying-it-out/#comment-70222</link>
		<dc:creator>David Brazeal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 May 2006 01:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, I'm just really impressed that you're in here taking suggestions.  That's a very, very good sign.  Keep up the good work.  Amy -- as usual, you're full of good ideas.  I thought of you as soon as I saw coComment's extension, and thought, "I wonder if Amy Gahran will still use del.icio.us to track comments."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, I&#8217;m just really impressed that you&#8217;re in here taking suggestions.  That&#8217;s a very, very good sign.  Keep up the good work.  Amy &#8212; as usual, you&#8217;re full of good ideas.  I thought of you as soon as I saw coComment&#8217;s extension, and thought, &#8220;I wonder if Amy Gahran will still use del.icio.us to track comments.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Gahran</title>
		<link>http://www.contentious.com/2006/04/30/cocomment-firefox-extension-trying-it-out/#comment-70221</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy Gahran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 May 2006 01:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, I'm very familiar with "experimental" :-)  Welcome to my life!

Thanks for all your hard work and prompt responses, Chris. I'll be mentioning CoComment tomorrow in Poynter's E-Media Tidbits blog.

- Amy Gahran</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, I&#8217;m very familiar with &#8220;experimental&#8221; <img src='http://www.contentious.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Welcome to my life!</p>
<p>Thanks for all your hard work and prompt responses, Chris. I&#8217;ll be mentioning CoComment tomorrow in Poynter&#8217;s E-Media Tidbits blog.</p>
<p>- Amy Gahran</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.contentious.com/2006/04/30/cocomment-firefox-extension-trying-it-out/#comment-70219</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 May 2006 01:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's why we call it "experimental". I'm looking into it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s why we call it &#8220;experimental&#8221;. I&#8217;m looking into it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Gahran</title>
		<link>http://www.contentious.com/2006/04/30/cocomment-firefox-extension-trying-it-out/#comment-70217</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy Gahran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 May 2006 00:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmmm.... I went into my wordpress template for this blog and added to it the little bit of javascript you recommended in your second step on http://mocha.ch/mochazone/trackAllComments

...However, that made my cocobar disappear! That doesn't seem right...

I took it out for now. What did I do wrong?

Oh, and I don't know whether del.icio.us offers direct tag export. And regarding tagging syntax, I'd like it if CoComment could allow the + sign as well as -. Right now you allow -, but not +. Many people (including me) use + in their tags for del.icio.us and other services.

And for tagging, I'd personally find a pick list far more usable than a drop-down menu. Furl only offers a drop-down menu of tags, which is the big reason why I use that service mainly for archiving, not for detailed categorizing. Drop downs are such a pain when you want to select several tags.

Thanks so much! This is very cool stuff!

- Amy Gahran</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmm&#8230;. I went into my wordpress template for this blog and added to it the little bit of javascript you recommended in your second step on <a href="http://mocha.ch/mochazone/trackAllComments" rel="nofollow">http://mocha.ch/mochazone/trackAllComments</a></p>
<p>&#8230;However, that made my cocobar disappear! That doesn&#8217;t seem right&#8230;</p>
<p>I took it out for now. What did I do wrong?</p>
<p>Oh, and I don&#8217;t know whether del.icio.us offers direct tag export. And regarding tagging syntax, I&#8217;d like it if CoComment could allow the + sign as well as -. Right now you allow -, but not +. Many people (including me) use + in their tags for del.icio.us and other services.</p>
<p>And for tagging, I&#8217;d personally find a pick list far more usable than a drop-down menu. Furl only offers a drop-down menu of tags, which is the big reason why I use that service mainly for archiving, not for detailed categorizing. Drop downs are such a pain when you want to select several tags.</p>
<p>Thanks so much! This is very cool stuff!</p>
<p>- Amy Gahran</p>
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