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	<title>Comments on: Full vs. Summary Feeds: Mostly A Matter of Taste</title>
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	<description>Amy Gahran's news and musings on how we communicate in the online age.</description>
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		<title>By: Lumpy</title>
		<link>http://www.contentious.com/2005/06/15/full-vs-summary-feeds-mostly-a-matter-of-taste/comment-page-1/#comment-21474</link>
		<dc:creator>Lumpy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Good article and some good comments!  I prefer full feeds for I do most of my reading offline.  I use &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rssowl.org&gt;RSSowl&lt;/a&gt; because it allows one to do so.  Regardless, offering readers the choice is likely the wisest option.
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Hopefully, some future version of RSS will make it mute or, referring to one of the comments posted, it may already be so.
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(I should also note that a good portion of my list was imported because you shared you OPML list.  Kudos on the list!)
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One thing that I have seen happening lately is inserting ads in feeds.  I do not mind that so to speak.  Some feed, however, changed over to sending an ad and about two lines of text.  Those are feeds I &lt;1&gt;used to subscribe to.
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Keep up the excellent writing.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article and some good comments!  I prefer full feeds for I do most of my reading offline.  I use <a href="http://www.rssowl.org>RSSowl</a> because it allows one to do so.  Regardless, offering readers the choice is likely the wisest option.
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Hopefully, some future version of RSS will make it mute or, referring to one of the comments posted, it may already be so.
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(I should also note that a good portion of my list was imported because you shared you OPML list.  Kudos on the list!)
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One thing that I have seen happening lately is inserting ads in feeds.  I do not mind that so to speak.  Some feed, however, changed over to sending an ad and about two lines of text.  Those are feeds I &lt;1>used to subscribe to.
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Keep up the excellent writing.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Specht</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Specht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2005 00:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There has been lots of discussion you are right and I am seeing more people go to full text feeds than not.  Some of the discussion can be found at http://blogsavvy.net/fair-use-of-rss-or-not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There has been lots of discussion you are right and I am seeing more people go to full text feeds than not.  Some of the discussion can be found at <a href="http://blogsavvy.net/fair-use-of-rss-or-not" rel="nofollow">http://blogsavvy.net/fair-use-of-rss-or-not</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Mitchell</title>
		<link>http://www.contentious.com/2005/06/15/full-vs-summary-feeds-mostly-a-matter-of-taste/comment-page-1/#comment-21352</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Mitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amy,

I appreciate your balanced perspective on this question.

My strong preference is for full text feeds. There are three key reasons:

1. Summary feeds are often so poorly written that they don&#039;t effectively convey the value of the item.

2. I&#039;m a skimmer. When online and connected, I find it very easy to use the scroll wheel (do they have those
on the Mac?) to move past the content I don&#039;t want to read.

3. Another mobile scenario - I&#039;m often on my notebook but not connected. If I want to use dead time (like on a bus)
to catch up with my feed reading then summary feeds are just plain anoying as I can&#039;t get to the good stuff
until I get a connection again.

My 2 cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amy,</p>
<p>I appreciate your balanced perspective on this question.</p>
<p>My strong preference is for full text feeds. There are three key reasons:</p>
<p>1. Summary feeds are often so poorly written that they don&#8217;t effectively convey the value of the item.</p>
<p>2. I&#8217;m a skimmer. When online and connected, I find it very easy to use the scroll wheel (do they have those<br />
on the Mac?) to move past the content I don&#8217;t want to read.</p>
<p>3. Another mobile scenario &#8211; I&#8217;m often on my notebook but not connected. If I want to use dead time (like on a bus)<br />
to catch up with my feed reading then summary feeds are just plain anoying as I can&#8217;t get to the good stuff<br />
until I get a connection again.</p>
<p>My 2 cents.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Benningfield</title>
		<link>http://www.contentious.com/2005/06/15/full-vs-summary-feeds-mostly-a-matter-of-taste/comment-page-1/#comment-21351</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger Benningfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amy: Not so long ago, I shared your POV on this. But I&#039;ve changed pretty drastically.

(1) Atom feeds can deliver both summary *and* content. And RSS 2.0 can incorporate the atom:summary element along side a full-text rss:description. So either/or arguments aren&#039;t strictly necessary.

(2) On a mobile device, app switching isn&#039;t really the issue... after all, I just use the mobile edition of Bloglines to read feeds on my Treo, which lives in the device&#039;s browser. In a mobility context, the real problem is the interface and unnecessary button presses. Full content minimizes random clicking around, saves me from re-rendering pages, and insulates me from the frequently mobile-hostile HTML on many sites.

(3) Summary-only feeds are worse than &quot;a bit less satisfying&quot; in many situations. In an aggregator like Newzcrawler, Feeddemon, or RSS Bandit, non-content feeds actively slow down an &quot;ultra-fast skimmer&quot;.

(4) Sites that publish summary-only feeds *drastically* hamper their searchability on PubSub, Feedster, and so on.

(5) People who are serious about keeping up with blogs use tools like Newzcrawler or RSS Bandit, which can incorporate comments directly into the flow of feed content. On the desktop, I wouldn&#039;t even consider using an aggregator that didn&#039;t have integrated support for wfw:commentRss, and I routinely nudge bloggers who can produce the necessary comment feeds and don&#039;t. For example, if Amy would add wfw:commentRss to her feed, a single click in my reader would allow me to keep up with this conversation. Hint, hint. :)

Now, with all of that said, there are people for whom actual syndication is anathema, who fear their content being &quot;ripped off&quot;. (Never mind that I was having my content stolen and republished before RSS even existed.) In those specific cases, I concur, summary-only is the way to go. It&#039;s a matter of personal responsibility and self-protection at that point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amy: Not so long ago, I shared your POV on this. But I&#8217;ve changed pretty drastically.</p>
<p>(1) Atom feeds can deliver both summary *and* content. And RSS 2.0 can incorporate the atom:summary element along side a full-text rss:description. So either/or arguments aren&#8217;t strictly necessary.</p>
<p>(2) On a mobile device, app switching isn&#8217;t really the issue&#8230; after all, I just use the mobile edition of Bloglines to read feeds on my Treo, which lives in the device&#8217;s browser. In a mobility context, the real problem is the interface and unnecessary button presses. Full content minimizes random clicking around, saves me from re-rendering pages, and insulates me from the frequently mobile-hostile HTML on many sites.</p>
<p>(3) Summary-only feeds are worse than &#8220;a bit less satisfying&#8221; in many situations. In an aggregator like Newzcrawler, Feeddemon, or RSS Bandit, non-content feeds actively slow down an &#8220;ultra-fast skimmer&#8221;.</p>
<p>(4) Sites that publish summary-only feeds *drastically* hamper their searchability on PubSub, Feedster, and so on.</p>
<p>(5) People who are serious about keeping up with blogs use tools like Newzcrawler or RSS Bandit, which can incorporate comments directly into the flow of feed content. On the desktop, I wouldn&#8217;t even consider using an aggregator that didn&#8217;t have integrated support for wfw:commentRss, and I routinely nudge bloggers who can produce the necessary comment feeds and don&#8217;t. For example, if Amy would add wfw:commentRss to her feed, a single click in my reader would allow me to keep up with this conversation. Hint, hint. <img src='http://www.contentious.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Now, with all of that said, there are people for whom actual syndication is anathema, who fear their content being &#8220;ripped off&#8221;. (Never mind that I was having my content stolen and republished before RSS even existed.) In those specific cases, I concur, summary-only is the way to go. It&#8217;s a matter of personal responsibility and self-protection at that point.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark VandeWettering</title>
		<link>http://www.contentious.com/2005/06/15/full-vs-summary-feeds-mostly-a-matter-of-taste/comment-page-1/#comment-21350</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark VandeWettering</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I offer the full text of my posts in my feeds.   Why?   Because two people asked that I do so, and nobody asked to switch it back.  :-)  See, I do pay attention to my audience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I offer the full text of my posts in my feeds.   Why?   Because two people asked that I do so, and nobody asked to switch it back.  <img src='http://www.contentious.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   See, I do pay attention to my audience.</p>
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