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		<title>By: Ro</title>
		<link>http://www.contentious.com/2004/06/22/10-cool-things-to-do-with-furl/comment-page-1/#comment-3323</link>
		<dc:creator>Ro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2004 20:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a nice post.  I&#039;ve been noticing furl and spurl and delish a lot more recently and its definitely an interesting field, if not one that is brand new.  Back in 1999-2000 there were plenty of these types of services, and most of us who remember the past will also remember that free things don&#039;t last, and that the only real control that you can have is if you are running the service yourself.  That&#039;s why I think a nice php package that allows you to do it yourself, to run a bookmarklet that updates your dynamic private/public online bookmarks site is essential for freedom and longevity of your data.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a nice post.  I&#8217;ve been noticing furl and spurl and delish a lot more recently and its definitely an interesting field, if not one that is brand new.  Back in 1999-2000 there were plenty of these types of services, and most of us who remember the past will also remember that free things don&#8217;t last, and that the only real control that you can have is if you are running the service yourself.  That&#8217;s why I think a nice php package that allows you to do it yourself, to run a bookmarklet that updates your dynamic private/public online bookmarks site is essential for freedom and longevity of your data.</p>
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		<title>By: Bloodhound</title>
		<link>http://www.contentious.com/2004/06/22/10-cool-things-to-do-with-furl/comment-page-1/#comment-2111</link>
		<dc:creator>Bloodhound</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2004 18:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>............&#039;It’s a bit of a copyright gray area. If you furl a web page containing copyrighted content and then make your archive public, are you violating copyright? Good question. I haven’t figured out the answer to that yet. But expect some challenges to arise in this area if Furl gets really popular&#039;.............. 

There is no &#039;GREY AREA&#039; as you suggest, that is only because someone does not take the trouble to look it up. You&#039;d better believe it when I say that where specific copyright notices are on display on  a web site, downloading, using the material - particularly images - in any way whatsoever is abusing the copyright of that &#039;author&#039; UNLESS it is out of copyright ie 70 years after his/her death. If you doubt what I say take a look at the current USA prcatice of fining people for misuse of copyrighted images upto $50,000.

The Internet does not have any different rules that allow theft of material on the spurious assumption or assertion that you are doing the author &#039;a good turn&#039;. 

In the same way that if you leave the front door open to your house - or cell - whichever applies, that is NOT an open invitation for anyone to enter and help themselves to your property. If someone does, then that is theft and is accountable in law. Insurance companies would never pay up because of &#039;get out clauses&#039; stipulating evidence of break in. There is a widely held belief that one set of copyright rules applies to everyday life and another should apply to what is available on the internet. 

Amongst other things, the Internet is a shop window for goods and if those goods are &#039;chained down&#039; the owner is making it very clear that they are not there to be removed. If I place something on the net then remove it, in no way would one of your bloggers be a legally entitled to reproduce it ANYWHERE, should they so wish, using their pirated version. What you are inplying is that people should help them selves to material - any material, and push it around as they wish instead of confining it to their own use -  not so on under the present law and a very dangerous assumption to make in the present climate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8217;It’s a bit of a copyright gray area. If you furl a web page containing copyrighted content and then make your archive public, are you violating copyright? Good question. I haven’t figured out the answer to that yet. But expect some challenges to arise in this area if Furl gets really popular&#8217;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. </p>
<p>There is no &#8216;GREY AREA&#8217; as you suggest, that is only because someone does not take the trouble to look it up. You&#8217;d better believe it when I say that where specific copyright notices are on display on  a web site, downloading, using the material &#8211; particularly images &#8211; in any way whatsoever is abusing the copyright of that &#8216;author&#8217; UNLESS it is out of copyright ie 70 years after his/her death. If you doubt what I say take a look at the current USA prcatice of fining people for misuse of copyrighted images upto $50,000.</p>
<p>The Internet does not have any different rules that allow theft of material on the spurious assumption or assertion that you are doing the author &#8216;a good turn&#8217;. </p>
<p>In the same way that if you leave the front door open to your house &#8211; or cell &#8211; whichever applies, that is NOT an open invitation for anyone to enter and help themselves to your property. If someone does, then that is theft and is accountable in law. Insurance companies would never pay up because of &#8216;get out clauses&#8217; stipulating evidence of break in. There is a widely held belief that one set of copyright rules applies to everyday life and another should apply to what is available on the internet. </p>
<p>Amongst other things, the Internet is a shop window for goods and if those goods are &#8216;chained down&#8217; the owner is making it very clear that they are not there to be removed. If I place something on the net then remove it, in no way would one of your bloggers be a legally entitled to reproduce it ANYWHERE, should they so wish, using their pirated version. What you are inplying is that people should help them selves to material &#8211; any material, and push it around as they wish instead of confining it to their own use &#8211;  not so on under the present law and a very dangerous assumption to make in the present climate.</p>
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		<title>By: dglp</title>
		<link>http://www.contentious.com/2004/06/22/10-cool-things-to-do-with-furl/comment-page-1/#comment-1635</link>
		<dc:creator>dglp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2004 00:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am enjoying Furl without knowing what del.i.cio.us. is or does. Furl is easy. It&#039;s relatively uncluttered. I am using it to organise narratives that will be accesible to other researchers. It is my collection of footnotes and sources, to be fleshed out with text at a later date. On that basis it would be nice to see organising tools: a method of creating/importing a classification scheme, a method of sequencing links. A blog inverted.

Given that this is much the same as items 4, 7, 9 &amp; 10, and that it&#039;s been a few weeks since the post, I&#039;m wondering if there are any tools that can assist the process I&#039;ve described.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am enjoying Furl without knowing what del.i.cio.us. is or does. Furl is easy. It&#8217;s relatively uncluttered. I am using it to organise narratives that will be accesible to other researchers. It is my collection of footnotes and sources, to be fleshed out with text at a later date. On that basis it would be nice to see organising tools: a method of creating/importing a classification scheme, a method of sequencing links. A blog inverted.</p>
<p>Given that this is much the same as items 4, 7, 9 &#038; 10, and that it&#8217;s been a few weeks since the post, I&#8217;m wondering if there are any tools that can assist the process I&#8217;ve described.</p>
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		<title>By: Couros Blog - Frequent Rants from an Ed. Tech'er</title>
		<link>http://www.contentious.com/2004/06/22/10-cool-things-to-do-with-furl/comment-page-1/#comment-375</link>
		<dc:creator>Couros Blog - Frequent Rants from an Ed. Tech'er</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;trackback /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;10 Cool Thinks to Do With Furl&lt;/strong&gt;
I&#039;ve been really happy with my use of social bookmark managers such as Furl and Spurl. For educators out there, here&#039;s a great list of 10 Cool Things to Do With Furl. Ahhhh ... reinvention....</description>
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I&#8217;ve been really happy with my use of social bookmark managers such as Furl and Spurl. For educators out there, here&#8217;s a great list of 10 Cool Things to Do With Furl. Ahhhh &#8230; reinvention&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: From the Crossroads</title>
		<link>http://www.contentious.com/2004/06/22/10-cool-things-to-do-with-furl/comment-page-1/#comment-376</link>
		<dc:creator>From the Crossroads</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;trackback /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Furl It!&lt;/strong&gt;
Amy Gahran of Contentious just introduced me via her blog to a very  interesting site: Furl.net.  I&#039;ve been using del.icio.us -that is its web address - for some time now.  I even display the latest entries from My del.icio.us on TravisSwicegood.com....</description>
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Amy Gahran of Contentious just introduced me via her blog to a very  interesting site: Furl.net.  I&#8217;ve been using del.icio.us -that is its web address &#8211; for some time now.  I even display the latest entries from My del.icio.us on TravisSwicegood.com&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: EdTechUK</title>
		<link>http://www.contentious.com/2004/06/22/10-cool-things-to-do-with-furl/comment-page-1/#comment-377</link>
		<dc:creator>EdTechUK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;trackback /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Furl&lt;/strong&gt;
Since I gave a heads up to Bloglines this week, I thought I’d also mention Furl - another free resource I&#039;ve been using (for both work</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<trackback /><strong>Furl</strong><br />
Since I gave a heads up to Bloglines this week, I thought I’d also mention Furl &#8211; another free resource I&#8217;ve been using (for both work</p>
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		<title>By: Transblawg</title>
		<link>http://www.contentious.com/2004/06/22/10-cool-things-to-do-with-furl/comment-page-1/#comment-378</link>
		<dc:creator>Transblawg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;trackback /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Medical translation weblog&lt;/strong&gt;
Sonja Tomaskovic (excuse lack of diacritics) has a medical translation weblog, mainly in English but with some German and Croatian. The weblog was originally here , where there are older entries (there may have been an earlier stage still). It&#8217;s...</description>
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Sonja Tomaskovic (excuse lack of diacritics) has a medical translation weblog, mainly in English but with some German and Croatian. The weblog was originally here , where there are older entries (there may have been an earlier stage still). It&#8217;s&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Learning Community Group's Research Network</title>
		<link>http://www.contentious.com/2004/06/22/10-cool-things-to-do-with-furl/comment-page-1/#comment-379</link>
		<dc:creator>Learning Community Group's Research Network</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;trackback /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Furl News&lt;/strong&gt;
Latest MentionsThousands of people are using Furl on a daily basis and loving it. You can read about it ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<trackback /><strong>Furl News</strong><br />
Latest MentionsThousands of people are using Furl on a daily basis and loving it. You can read about it &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Learning Community Group's Research Network</title>
		<link>http://www.contentious.com/2004/06/22/10-cool-things-to-do-with-furl/comment-page-1/#comment-380</link>
		<dc:creator>Learning Community Group's Research Network</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;trackback /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Furl News&lt;/strong&gt;
Latest MentionsThousands of people are using Furl on a daily basis and loving it. You can read about it ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<trackback /><strong>Furl News</strong><br />
Latest MentionsThousands of people are using Furl on a daily basis and loving it. You can read about it &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Learning Community Group's Research Network</title>
		<link>http://www.contentious.com/2004/06/22/10-cool-things-to-do-with-furl/comment-page-1/#comment-381</link>
		<dc:creator>Learning Community Group's Research Network</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">#comment-381</guid>
		<description>&lt;trackback /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Furl News&lt;/strong&gt;
Latest MentionsThousands of people are using Furl on a daily basis and loving it. You can read about it ...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<trackback /><strong>Furl News</strong><br />
Latest MentionsThousands of people are using Furl on a daily basis and loving it. You can read about it &#8230;</p>
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